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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Fixing Wi‑Fi Dropouts on ASL3: The Hidden Conflict Between NetworkManager and wpa_supplicant If you’ve ever installed AllStarLink 3.x on a Raspberry Pi or x86 system and noticed your node randomly dropping off Wi‑Fi, switching between access points, or getting stuck in a strange “dormant” state, you’re not alone. I recently ran into this exact issue [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://www.lagmrs.com/wp/2026/04/18/wifi-setup-on-asl3-allstar-wifi-problems/">Wifi setup on ASL3 allstar wifi problems</a> first appeared on <a href="https://www.lagmrs.com/wp">Louisiana Nationwide</a>.</p>]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Fixing Wi‑Fi Dropouts on ASL3: The Hidden Conflict Between NetworkManager and wpa_supplicant</strong></h1>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you’ve ever installed <strong>AllStarLink 3.x</strong> on a Raspberry Pi or x86 system and noticed your node randomly dropping off Wi‑Fi, switching between access points, or getting stuck in a strange “dormant” state, you’re not alone. I recently ran into this exact issue on two different nodes, and the root cause turned out to be something most users never think to check.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The good news: the fix is simple once you know what’s going on.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This post walks through the symptoms, the diagnosis, and the exact steps to fix the problem permanently.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>The Symptoms</strong></h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">On both of my ASL3 nodes, I was seeing:</p>



<ul class="wp-block-list">
<li>Random Wi‑Fi disconnects</li>



<li>The Pi jumping between 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz access points</li>



<li>“DORMANT” mode showing up in <code>iw dev</code></li>



<li>Slow or failed reconnects</li>



<li>Occasional audio dropouts on the AllStar node</li>



<li>Unstable links even with strong signal</li>
</ul>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">At first, I assumed it was a weak signal or interference. I even disabled the 2.4 GHz SSID on a nearby access point to force the Pi onto 5 GHz. That helped a little, but the dropouts continued.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Something deeper was going on.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>The Real Cause: Two Wi‑Fi Managers Fighting Each Other</strong></h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">ASL3 is based on Debian 12, and depending on how the image was built, it may include:</p>



<ul class="wp-block-list">
<li><strong>NetworkManager</strong></li>



<li><strong>wpa_supplicant</strong></li>
</ul>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Both of these services can manage Wi‑Fi connections. And on my nodes, <strong>both were active at the same time</strong>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You can check this with:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Code</p>



<pre class="wp-block-code"><code>systemctl is-active NetworkManager
systemctl is-active wpa_supplicant
</code></pre>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If both return <code>active</code>, you’ve found the culprit.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">When two Wi‑Fi managers try to control the same interface, you get:</p>



<ul class="wp-block-list">
<li>roaming between APs</li>



<li>DHCP conflicts</li>



<li>interface resets</li>



<li>“dormant” mode</li>



<li>dropped packets</li>



<li>unstable 5 GHz connections</li>
</ul>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This is exactly what I was seeing.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>The Fix: Disable wpa_supplicant and Let NetworkManager Handle Wi‑Fi</strong></h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">NetworkManager is the more modern and stable option on ASL3, especially since it supports the <code>nmtui</code> Wi‑Fi setup menu.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here’s the fix:</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>1. Disable wpa_supplicant</strong></h3>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Code</p>



<pre class="wp-block-code"><code>sudo systemctl stop wpa_supplicant
sudo systemctl disable wpa_supplicant
</code></pre>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>2. Restart NetworkManager</strong></h3>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Code</p>



<pre class="wp-block-code"><code>sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager
</code></pre>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>3. Verify Wi‑Fi is still connected</strong></h3>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Code</p>



<pre class="wp-block-code"><code>iw wlan0 link
</code></pre>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">You should see your SSID and channel listed normally.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Once I did this on both nodes, the random dropouts stopped immediately.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Bonus Fix: Disable Wi‑Fi Power Saving</strong></h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Raspberry Pi Wi‑Fi defaults to power‑saving mode, which is great for laptops but terrible for AllStar nodes. It causes latency spikes, missed packets, and sometimes disconnects.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Turn it off:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Code</p>



<pre class="wp-block-code"><code>sudo iw dev wlan0 set power_save off
</code></pre>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Make it permanent:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Code</p>



<pre class="wp-block-code"><code>sudo mkdir -p /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d
sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/wifi-powersave.conf
</code></pre>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Add:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Code</p>



<pre class="wp-block-code"><code>&#91;connection]
wifi.powersave = 2
</code></pre>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Restart:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Code</p>



<pre class="wp-block-code"><code>sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager
</code></pre>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This alone can dramatically improve stability.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Automating the Fix for Future Installs</strong></h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">To make life easier, I created a script that:</p>



<ul class="wp-block-list">
<li>disables wpa_supplicant</li>



<li>enables NetworkManager</li>



<li>disables Wi‑Fi power saving</li>



<li>launches the Wi‑Fi setup menu</li>
</ul>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Here’s the script:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"></p>



<pre class="wp-block-code"><code>#!/bin/bash

echo "=== ASL3 Wi-Fi Fix Script ==="

# 1. Stop and disable wpa_supplicant
echo "&#91;1/4] Disabling wpa_supplicant..."
sudo systemctl stop wpa_supplicant 2>/dev/null
sudo systemctl disable wpa_supplicant 2>/dev/null

# 2. Ensure NetworkManager is enabled and running
echo "&#91;2/4] Enabling NetworkManager..."
sudo systemctl enable NetworkManager
sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager

# 3. Disable Wi-Fi power saving (runtime)
echo "&#91;3/4] Disabling Wi-Fi power saving..."
sudo iw dev wlan0 set power_save off 2>/dev/null

# 4. Make power saving OFF permanent
echo "&#91;4/4] Making power saving permanently disabled..."
sudo mkdir -p /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d
sudo bash -c 'cat > /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/wifi-powersave.conf &lt;&lt;EOF
&#91;connection]
wifi.powersave = 2
EOF'

sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager

echo ""
echo "=== Wi-Fi services configured ==="
echo "Launching Wi-Fi setup menu (nmtui)..."
echo ""

sleep 1
sudo nmtui
</code></pre>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Run it once after installing ASL3, and your Wi‑Fi will be rock‑solid.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Conclusion</strong></h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If your ASL3 node is experiencing Wi‑Fi instability, the problem may not be your access point, your signal strength, or even your hardware. In many cases, the real issue is that <strong>NetworkManager and wpa_supplicant are both trying to manage Wi‑Fi at the same time</strong>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Disabling wpa_supplicant and letting NetworkManager take over — combined with turning off Wi‑Fi power saving — results in a dramatically more stable connection.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">After applying this fix, both of my nodes have been running flawlessly on 5 GHz with zero dropouts.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">If you’re building or maintaining AllStar nodes, this is a must‑do step.</p><p>The post <a href="https://www.lagmrs.com/wp/2026/04/18/wifi-setup-on-asl3-allstar-wifi-problems/">Wifi setup on ASL3 allstar wifi problems</a> first appeared on <a href="https://www.lagmrs.com/wp">Louisiana Nationwide</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
					
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